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+ | "[[Play Twice Before Listening]]" is an interview by Koen Poolman originally published online Mar. 2002 on the OOR website <ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20020328062626/http://www.oor.nl/OorNL/custom/Boards.htm</ref>. The abbreviated version (in Dutch) published in the OOR magazine can be found [https://bocpages.org/wiki/Boards_of_Canada:_Even_voorstellen... here]. | ||
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+ | === [[Play Twice Before Listening]] === | ||
{{question|Hi Michael & Marcus, Where are you? How are you doing?}} | {{question|Hi Michael & Marcus, Where are you? How are you doing?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We're at our studio right now, the whole place is under snow at the moment. Everything's cool.}} | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We're at our studio right now, the whole place is |
+ | under snow at the moment. Everything's cool. Geogaddi | ||
+ | must be one of the most anticipated records of 2002. I | ||
+ | guess this weekend saw the first string of reviews in the | ||
+ | magazines.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|What's the best and the worst criticism you got so far?}} |
β | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We try not to look at reviews. It starts to affect your work if you read the comments people make. Even positive comments can be damaging, I mean it's a lot easier for us to have fun writing music if we imagine nobody is listening to it.}} | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We try not to look at reviews. It starts to |
+ | affect your work if you read the comments people make. | ||
+ | Even positive comments can be damaging, I mean it's a lot | ||
+ | easier for us to have fun writing music if we imagine | ||
+ | nobody is listening to it.}} | ||
β | {{question|What's with the secrecy surrounding the release of the album? a) we don't care about music business politics and promotion schedules b) we tried to keep the music from the net (and miraculously succeeded) c) we like a little mystery d) all above is true}} | + | {{question|What's with the secrecy surrounding the release of the |
+ | album? a) we don't care about music business politics and | ||
+ | promotion schedules b) we tried to keep the music from | ||
+ | the net (and miraculously succeeded) c) we like a little | ||
+ | mystery d) all above is true}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': a and b. Especially a.}} | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': a and b. Especially a. Music Has The Right To |
+ | Children was one of those seminal records that got better | ||
+ | and more personal every time you listened to it. Its | ||
+ | reputation seemed to grow every year. It's a modern | ||
+ | classic. Geogaddi won't get the time and space to grow in | ||
+ | people's subconsciousness, as MHTRTC did. People are | ||
+ | taking in the album from day one, swallowing every track, | ||
+ | hungry as they are.}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': Thanks, yeah I think you're right, it's easier when |
β | + | you appear out of nowhere with your first album. After | |
+ | that, if people let their expectations grow too much, | ||
+ | then it's inevitable that any subsequent records won't | ||
+ | have the same effect, no matter what the music sounds | ||
+ | like. Our music is never intended to do its work on just | ||
+ | the first listen. Like Jack Dangers said, "play twice | ||
+ | before listening.}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{question|How did you cope with this situation? Do you feel |
β | + | comfortable with the idea that a lot more people are | |
+ | gonna hear your music, giving it momentum, building up a | ||
+ | hype rather than letting it "capture a nostalgic feeling | ||
+ | buried somewhere in our mind", as one journalist so | ||
+ | accurately wrote.}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': We'd much rather that people find our music by |
+ | themselves, you know, so that it's something that feels | ||
+ | like it belongs to them. If it was up to us there would | ||
+ | be no promotion for our music at all. MHTRTC was a | ||
+ | one-off moment of magic you can't possibly repeat - | ||
+ | because of the aforementioned situation. Wasn't it? Is it | ||
+ | fair to expect another album of such class? Best thing to | ||
+ | do in a situation like this is to disappear for good... | ||
+ | and let legend begin.}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': We | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': Our best work is still ahead of us. We were writing |
+ | and recording our own music for about fifteen years | ||
+ | before 'Music Has The Right...', and we're never going to | ||
+ | stop creating music. We wouldn't have left it at just | ||
+ | that album, just because that's the first record that | ||
+ | became quite widely-known. The truth is that when we | ||
+ | released that record we had no idea it would develop the | ||
+ | kind of cult thing that it has.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|You've been shying away from the media and are very |
+ | fastidious when it comes to playing live. How important | ||
+ | is Boards Of Canada, The Myth, to you?}} | ||
β | {{boc|''' | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We're not into milking the media and we're not |
+ | interested in trying to become famous. There are too many | ||
+ | artists out there who barely put any records out, yet | ||
+ | they're on television and in magazines all the time. If | ||
+ | that's what they want, that's fine, but I think that's | ||
+ | the mentality of someone who came to the music world | ||
+ | quite late in their life, but for us we've been doing | ||
+ | what we do for years already, and we'd be doing it anyway | ||
+ | even if nobody knew us. The music industry is full of | ||
+ | people who are famous for being famous. We just want to | ||
+ | create good music, and it doesn't matter to us to do all | ||
+ | the other nonsense.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|There's a nostalgic feeling speaking through your music. |
+ | The ultimate conclusion would be: perceiving your music | ||
+ | as if it were nostalgia itself, originating from another | ||
+ | time and space. Something out there. Not of today's | ||
+ | world.}} | ||
β | {{boc|''' | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': That's exactly why we try to create a sound that |
β | + | isn't attached to the current time. I hope our music | |
+ | could be enjoyed thirty years in the future without | ||
+ | sounding like it came from an identifiable trend or a | ||
+ | scene. We've always loved the sound of things that are a | ||
+ | little sad and broken-sounding. I think that because we | ||
+ | try to capture a damaged, eerie effect in our music, it | ||
+ | ends up sounding nostalgic to some listeners. But you | ||
+ | could be right because the intention is to make it sound | ||
+ | like it's something strangely familiar but perpendicular | ||
+ | to the real world, and in a way timeless.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|You've recorded over 90 songs for Geogaddi. Only 22 - and |
+ | the silent Magic Window - made it onto the album. At | ||
+ | Camber Sands you played an utterly brilliant new track | ||
+ | that's not on the album.}} | ||
β | {{boc|''' | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': It's about what fits in the context of the album. |
β | + | When we play live we often play tracks that haven't been | |
+ | released. Sometimes those tracks will be used later, | ||
+ | sometimes we will move on from that sound and leave the | ||
+ | track behind.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|How many hours of music went through the drain? Any |
+ | chance of a quick follow-up to Geogaddi or, at least, an | ||
+ | EP then?}} | ||
β | {{boc|''' | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': Haha, yeah there will be another record very soon |
β | + | after this one. As Marcus said, you make an album by | |
+ | compiling what fits together, and we're already putting | ||
+ | together a different record.}} | ||
β | {{question|How | + | {{question|How did you make the selection between the 'full |
+ | on' tracks and the strange intermezzos and miniature | ||
+ | melodies that slowly grow into little gems after a while? | ||
+ | Is there an overall theme/direction that connects the | ||
+ | tracks on the album?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': It's meant to play like the soundtrack for some |
+ | strange musical, or an imagined movie. The theme with | ||
+ | Geogaddi is a kind of confusion, as though you're going | ||
+ | through a kind of 'Alice in Wonderland' adventure, but | ||
+ | with a damaged mind. Those short tracks you mention, we | ||
+ | write far more of those than the so-called "full on" | ||
+ | tracks, and in a way, they are our own favorites.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|These hidden treasures, little as they are, appear to be |
+ | even bigger in numbers than on Music Has The Right To | ||
+ | Children. Is seems like you're teasing us. It's hidden, | ||
+ | so find it! True?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': If we wanted, we could release 10 albums tomorrow |
+ | made up only with those short tracks. The ones on | ||
+ | Geogaddi are the ones that make most sense in the overall | ||
+ | flow.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|At the time of the release of In A Beautiful Place Out In |
+ | The Country, November 2000, you were said to have | ||
+ | recorded 64 tracks from which 23 would be pared down to | ||
+ | an album. Fifteen months later there's an album of 23 | ||
+ | tracks - selected out of 90-plus. How does Geogaddi | ||
+ | differ from the album you could have put together on and | ||
+ | a half year ago?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': If we | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': If you mean how does it differ from what might have |
+ | been compiled into an album in 2000, I think it would | ||
+ | have been pretty different. We go through phases, | ||
+ | Geogaddi has a lot to do with what we were listening to | ||
+ | in the last year. If we'd made it in 2000 it might have | ||
+ | been more electronic, but over time we've tried to create | ||
+ | something more fuzzy and organic. Every time we make a | ||
+ | record we see it as an individual project, separate from | ||
+ | what went before and what will happen afterwards. | ||
+ | Likewise the next record will sound different.}} | ||
β | {{question| | + | {{question|The aim for Geogaddi is the perfect album, you once said. |
+ | How perfect is Geogaddi? Is the devil really in the | ||
+ | details? Is that why it took you another year to finish | ||
+ | the album?}} | ||
β | {{boc|''' | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': The idea of the perfect album is this amorphous |
β | + | thing that we're always aiming at. For us it can mean | |
+ | something that's full of imperfection, because part of | ||
+ | our aim has always been to destroy the sound in a | ||
+ | beautiful way. It doesn't mean that we expect everyone | ||
+ | would like it. I'm not sure that we will ever get there, | ||
+ | to make the perfect record. But the whole point of making | ||
+ | music is at least to aim at your own idea of perfection.}} | ||
β | {{question|The | + | {{question|Did In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country originate |
+ | from the same sessions as the tracks on Geogaddi? Those | ||
+ | were four 'full on'tracks. Put too many of these on an | ||
+ | album and it will become a collection of songs, not an | ||
+ | organic work of art as a whole, is that what you believe?}} | ||
β | {{boc|''' | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': That's partially true. For the album we hoped to |
+ | make something where all the tracks had a similar | ||
+ | undercurrent while being diverse. The songs on IABPOITC | ||
+ | could have ended up on Geogaddi, but at the time, we | ||
+ | realized they worked well together so they became their | ||
+ | own EP."}} | ||
β | + | {{question|Amo Bishop Roden was outstanding. Very minimal (Reich, | |
β | + | Glass, La Monte Young), very ambient. Zoetrope had a | |
β | + | similar vibe. It's a vibe that shines through on Geogaddi | |
β | + | (esp. in You Could Feel The Sky), but not as much as I | |
β | {{question|Amo Bishop Roden was outstanding. Very minimal (Reich, Glass, La Monte Young), very ambient. Zoetrope had a similar vibe. It's a vibe that shines through on Geogaddi (esp. in You Could Feel The Sky), but not as much as I expected. It's not a big step from MHTRTC to Geogaddi | + | expected. It's not a big step from MHTRTC to Geogaddi |
really. Or is it?}} | really. Or is it?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We don't try to plot a route with where we go musically. It has more to do with our own moods at the time of writing, and for example, what we have read or watched as an influence. That EP had it's own little theme. Because Geogaddi has a lot more tracks than an EP, it's easier to draw a connection between it and our last album, because we are the same band! Usually we're a lot more minimal than the songs on Geogaddi, but this time we wanted to do something with more facets, more detail and a kind of concentrated recipe of chaotic little melodies. It reflected a chaotic time in our personal lives. I guess we'll probably go back in a more minimal direction next.}} | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': We don't try to plot a route with where we go |
+ | musically. It has more to do with our own moods at the | ||
+ | time of writing, and for example, what we have read or | ||
+ | watched as an influence. That EP had it's own little | ||
+ | theme. Because Geogaddi has a lot more tracks than an EP, | ||
+ | it's easier to draw a connection between it and our last | ||
+ | album, because we are the same band! Usually we're a lot | ||
+ | more minimal than the songs on Geogaddi, but this time we | ||
+ | wanted to do something with more facets, more detail and | ||
+ | a kind of concentrated recipe of chaotic little melodies. | ||
+ | It reflected a chaotic time in our personal lives. I | ||
+ | guess we'll probably go back in a more minimal direction | ||
+ | next. If you were to point out one difference, one | ||
+ | progression from MHTRTC, what would it be?}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': I would say 'Music Has The Right...' is a record |
+ | for outdoors on a cold, blue-skied day, while 'Geogaddi' | ||
+ | is a record for some sort of trial-by-fire, a | ||
+ | claustrophobic, twisting journey that takes you into some | ||
+ | pretty dark experiences before you reach the open air | ||
+ | again. It has a kind of narrative. That's why we ended it | ||
+ | with 'Corsair', it's like the light at the end of the | ||
+ | tunnel.}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{question|"It's darker than their previous work," Steve Beckett, |
+ | head of Warp Records, said about In A Beautiful Place, | ||
+ | back then. Does that count for Geogaddi as well?}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': Definitely, even more so. Our influences while |
+ | creating Geogaddi involved much darker material, so I | ||
+ | think this comes through in the album.}} | ||
β | {{ | + | {{question|Minimal tracks like Amo Bishop Roden, Zoetrope and You |
+ | Could Feel The Sky, are they pointing out a new direction | ||
+ | for BOC, you think?}} | ||
β | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': Yeah it's possible. I think the best way to freshen | |
β | + | up what you're doing is to strip it down and go minimal, | |
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': Yeah it's possible. I think the best way to freshen up what you're doing is to strip it down and go minimal, so we'll see. Though our next EP could just as easily be a collection of ROYGBIV-like songs. Every so often we like to stop ourselves and change direction, it's important to do that or you can become tired of your own music. Every record is like a reaction to the last one, so I guess at the moment we're feeling more like heading | + | so we'll see. Though our next EP could just as easily be |
+ | a collection of ROYGBIV-like songs. Every so often we | ||
+ | like to stop ourselves and change direction, it's | ||
+ | important to do that or you can become tired of your own | ||
+ | music. Every record is like a reaction to the last one, | ||
+ | so I guess at the moment we're feeling more like heading | ||
in a minimal direction, simplifying the sound again.}} | in a minimal direction, simplifying the sound again.}} | ||
β | {{question|Does it bother you that one half of the IDM population is copying Autechre/Aphex and the other half is copying you, | + | {{question|Does it bother you that one half of the IDM population is |
+ | copying Autechre/Aphex and the other half is copying you, | ||
stealing your voice and style?}} | stealing your voice and style?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Marcus''': I think it's flattering that we may be influencing others to create music. But I think everyone should find their own path. In a way, if people copy us closely, it just keeps me on my toes.}} | + | {{boc|'''Marcus''': I think it's flattering that we may be |
+ | influencing others to create music. But I think everyone | ||
+ | should find their own path. In a way, if people copy us | ||
+ | closely, it just keeps me on my toes.}} | ||
β | {{question|How important is the folk influence that crops up in every review, like "the production aesthetics of late 60s and early 70s folk artists"?}} | + | {{question|How important is the folk influence that crops up in |
+ | every review, like "the production aesthetics of late 60s | ||
+ | and early 70s folk artists"?}} | ||
β | {{boc|'''Mike''': Very. There's a lot of acoustic instrumentation used in Geogaddi, though not in obvious ways. We love artists like Joni Mitchell and The Incredible Stringband. There's a sort of purity of sound that they have, and I guess we are striving for that ourselves.}} | + | {{boc|'''Mike''': Very. There's a lot of acoustic instrumentation |
+ | used in Geogaddi, though not in obvious ways. We love | ||
+ | artists like Joni Mitchell and The Incredible Stringband. | ||
+ | There's a sort of purity of sound that they have, and I | ||
+ | guess we are striving for that ourselves.}} | ||
{{question|A friend of mine (and Plaid's) draw my attention to the psychedelic folk of fellow Scotchmen The Incredible Stringband. Their late sixties albums The 5000 Spirits and The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter, would that be the kind of stuff you're into? Ehm⦠the album covers of The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter and Music Has The Right To Children make a nice pair, that's for sure!}} | {{question|A friend of mine (and Plaid's) draw my attention to the psychedelic folk of fellow Scotchmen The Incredible Stringband. Their late sixties albums The 5000 Spirits and The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter, would that be the kind of stuff you're into? Ehm⦠the album covers of The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter and Music Has The Right To Children make a nice pair, that's for sure!}} | ||
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